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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
              SENATE EDUCATION STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                             
                         April 14, 2021                                                                                         
                           9:03 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Senator Roger Holland, Chair                                                                                                    
Senator Gary Stevens, Vice Chair                                                                                                
Senator Shelley Hughes                                                                                                          
Senator Tom Begich                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
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Senator Peter Micciche                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATE BILL NO. 111                                                                                                             
"An Act  relating to  the duties of  the Department  of Education                                                               
and Early  Development; relating  to public schools;  relating to                                                               
early  education   programs;  relating   to  funding   for  early                                                               
education programs; relating to  school age eligibility; relating                                                               
to reports by the Department  of Education and Early Development;                                                               
relating   to   reports   by  school   districts;   relating   to                                                               
certification and  competency of teachers; relating  to assessing                                                               
reading deficiencies and  providing reading intervention services                                                               
to  public  school  students   enrolled  in  grades  kindergarten                                                               
through three;  relating to textbooks  and materials  for reading                                                               
intervention  services; establishing  a  reading  program in  the                                                               
Department  of  Education  and  Early  Development;  relating  to                                                               
school  operating   funds;  relating   to  a   virtual  education                                                               
consortium; and providing for an effective date."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
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SENATE JOINT RESOLUTION NO. 10                                                                                                  
Proposing  an  amendment to  the  Constitution  of the  State  of                                                               
Alaska relating to in-person public education.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: SB 111                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: EARLY EDUCATION; READING INTERVENTION                                                                              
SPONSOR(s): EDUCATION                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ED KING, Staff                                                                                                                  
Senator Roger Holland                                                                                                           
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Explained the changes in the committee                                                                    
substitute for SB 111.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
NOAH KLEIN, Counsel                                                                                                             
Legal Services                                                                                                                  
Legislative Affairs Agency                                                                                                      
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Answered questions about the committee                                                                    
substitute for SB 111.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
TOM KLAAMEYER, President                                                                                                        
NEA-Alaska                                                                                                                      
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION  STATEMENT:   Spoke  about   the  importance   of  early                                                             
childhood education  and concerns  about sunset provisions  in SB
111.                                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
NORM WOOTEN, Director of Advocacy                                                                                               
Association of Alaska School Boards                                                                                             
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT: Testified in support of SB 111.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:03:03 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  ROGER   HOLLAND  called  the  Senate   Education  Standing                                                             
Committee meeting  to order at 9:03  a.m. Present at the  call to                                                               
order were Senators Begich, Hughes, Stevens, and Chair Holland.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
          SB 111-EARLY EDUCATION; READING INTERVENTION                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:03:30 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR HOLLAND announced the consideration  of SENATE BILL NO. 111                                                               
"An Act  relating to  the duties of  the Department  of Education                                                               
and Early  Development; relating  to public schools;  relating to                                                               
early  education   programs;  relating   to  funding   for  early                                                               
education programs; relating to  school age eligibility; relating                                                               
to reports by the Department  of Education and Early Development;                                                               
relating   to   reports   by  school   districts;   relating   to                                                               
certification and  competency of teachers; relating  to assessing                                                               
reading deficiencies and  providing reading intervention services                                                               
to  public  school  students   enrolled  in  grades  kindergarten                                                               
through three;  relating to textbooks  and materials  for reading                                                               
intervention  services; establishing  a  reading  program in  the                                                               
Department  of  Education  and  Early  Development;  relating  to                                                               
school  operating   funds;  relating   to  a   virtual  education                                                               
consortium; and providing for an effective date."                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HOLLAND noted  the committee  substitute  and solicited  a                                                               
motion.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:03:40 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  STEVENS   moved  to  adopt  the   work  draft  committee                                                               
substitute  (CS)  for SB  111,  work  order 32-LS0485\O,  as  the                                                               
working document.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:03:54 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR HOLLAND objected  for purposes of discussion  and asked Mr.                                                               
King to explain the changes in the committee substitute.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:04:07 AM                                                                                                                    
ED KING, Staff, Senator Roger  Holland, Alaska State Legislature,                                                               
Juneau, Alaska,  advised that there  were substantial  changes in                                                               
the draft before the committee.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 1: No changes.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 2:  A new section  to clarify ambiguity  around day-                                                               
     in-session  requirements  for  under  school  age  students,                                                               
     which replaces "all other grades"  with "grades four through                                                               
     12"  (page 2,  line 10).  Note: day-in-session  requirements                                                               
     for early education and kindergarten appear in section 20.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KING said  the phrase  "all  other grades"  could have  been                                                               
interpreted   to  include   kindergarten  and   early  elementary                                                               
considered  grades   and  therefore  subject  to   the  five-hour                                                               
requirement. This addresses that ambiguity.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 3: No changes from previous section 2.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 4: No changes from previous section 3.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 5: On  page 3, related to  early reading information                                                               
     for  parents,  version  O  inserts  "culturally  responsive"                                                               
     (line 2)  and changed the word  "retention" to "progression"                                                               
     (line 5).                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH noted that only two  sections of the bill have the                                                               
plural "parents  and guardians." Everywhere else  it is singular.                                                               
He said he  is waiting for a response from  Legislative Legal and                                                               
acknowledges it may be a typo.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING  replied that  did come  up in  a conversation  with the                                                               
drafter and he was available to respond to the question.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BEGICH asked  about the  variation between  singular and                                                               
plural references.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:07:16 AM                                                                                                                    
NOAH KLEIN, Counsel, Legal  Services, Legislative Affairs Agency,                                                               
Juneau, Alaska, said he did not  change it because it is existing                                                               
law  and  he  thought  the  chance of  any  ambiguity  was  slim.                                                               
However, the reference could be changed to the singular.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH said he just wondered why it was not consistent.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING added  that if the plural "students" was  used, then the                                                               
plural was used for "parents" and "guardians."                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH said that makes sense.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING explained  that because the repeals  were expanded, some                                                               
new sections were needed for conforming purposes.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 6:  A new reverting  section to conform  to the                                                                    
     2032 repeal of AS 14.30.765.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     Section 7:  Added an annual report  for the parents-as-                                                                    
     teachers program (located on page 4, lines 25-28).                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 8:  A new reverting  section to conform  to the                                                                    
     2032 repeal of AS  14.30.760   14.30.775, which deletes                                                                    
     the  reporting  requirements for  reading  intervention                                                                    
     and parents as teachers.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section 9: No changes from previous section 6.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 10:  Amends AS 14.03.080(c), related  to access                                                                    
     for  under school  age children,  whereas section  7 of                                                                    
     version  O  amended AS  14.03.080(d)  and  added a  new                                                                    
     subsection (g). This change  allows school districts to                                                                    
     determine if  a four-  or five-year-old  student should                                                                    
     be  placed  in  an   early  education  or  kindergarten                                                                    
     program.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING  said Section 10  is more substantial. In  existing law,                                                               
subsection  (c) exists  as  a  way for  the  school districts  to                                                               
approve under school-age children  for kindergarten programs. The                                                               
school age  is defined in statute  as ages 6-18, so  under school                                                               
age  is four  and five  in this  context. Adding  early education                                                               
programs  includes  four-year-olds   in  the  conversation  about                                                               
under-school age children. Existing  law, section (d), says five-                                                               
year-olds  can go  to kindergarten.  Version  W of  SB 111  added                                                               
another subsection  which said four- and  five-year-olds could go                                                               
to early education. There was  still ambiguity about when a child                                                               
would  go  to  early  education and  when  to  kindergarten.  The                                                               
committee substitute  amends subsection (c)  so that it  is clear                                                               
that four-  and five-year-old children can  participate in either                                                               
early  education programs  or kindergarten  at the  discretion of                                                               
the district  on which  is more  appropriate. Subsection  (d) was                                                               
removed from  law and subsection (g)  was not added in  version W                                                               
of SB 111.  The two changes to subsection (c)  make it clear that                                                               
the  bill  is talking  about  four-  and five-year-olds  and  not                                                               
three-year-olds and  younger. It also  makes it clear  that four-                                                               
year-olds in  an early childhood  program can continue  when five                                                               
if they are not prepared to go to kindergarten.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING continued explaining the changes.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
      Section 11: New reverting section of the changes in                                                                       
     section 10 to align the sunset of all programs.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     Section 12: This section has  a 2032 effective date, to                                                                    
     bring   back  the   language   from   the  current   AS                                                                    
     14.03.080(d)  if  the   provisions  revert  to  current                                                                    
     language.  (d)  is  no  longer  necessary  due  to  the                                                                    
     changes in subsection (c).                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:12:29 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BEGICH said  Sections 11  and 12  are connected  because                                                               
they revert Section 10. Section 12  is "a child who is five years                                                               
of age  on or before September  1 following the beginning  of the                                                               
school year,  and who  is under  school age,  may enter  a public                                                               
school  kindergarten."  He  asked   if  after  the  sunset,  this                                                               
precludes a four-year-old from attending kindergarten.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KING suggested  looking at  these  three sections  together.                                                               
Section 12  reinserts current law,  subsection (d), which  is the                                                               
law  today about  five-year-olds  entering  kindergarten. If  the                                                               
sunset provisions  take effect,  subsection (g) would  now become                                                               
what is  subsection (d). If all  these sections in the  bill were                                                               
to take effect,  everything would return to the way  it is today.                                                               
In  so far  as a  four-year-old is  currently not  able to  go to                                                               
kindergarten, that  will be the  law if the sunsets  take effect.                                                               
It reverts to the law today.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH said that under  current law a four-year-old could                                                               
go  to kindergarten.  That is  not  the admission  age, but  they                                                               
could  go to  kindergarten.  He asked  if  this would  completely                                                               
remove that option.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING  answered that if  all sections  were to take  effect in                                                               
2032 with all  the repeals, the law in 2032  will be identical to                                                               
law as  it exists today. To  the extent that a  four-year-old can                                                               
go to school today, it will be the same.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH said he was having trouble seeing that.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:14:56 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES said  she was  unsure at  times if  Mr. King  was                                                               
saying "enable"  or "unable." She  thought there was  a provision                                                               
where children who are four could  be assessed to see if they are                                                               
ready  for school,  both  now  and in  2032,  if  this goes  into                                                               
effect.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING replied that under  current law, subsection (d), a child                                                               
of five  can enter public  school kindergarten. There  is nothing                                                               
in  existing law  about a  four-year-old. Subsection  (c), as  it                                                               
exists today  under current  law, says a  district can  allow any                                                               
under age child to enter  whatever program the district approves.                                                               
If there  is an interpretation that  that includes four-year-olds                                                               
today, that same interpretation should apply in the future.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES  asked  if  SB  111  has  a  provision  about  an                                                               
assessment for a child.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING  said that yes,  AS 14.03.080(c) exists in  current law.                                                               
The governing body  of the school district can decide  if a child                                                               
meets the minimum  standard set by the board  evidencing that the                                                               
child  has  the  mental,  physical,  and  emotional  capacity  to                                                               
perform   satisfactorily  for   the  educational   program  being                                                               
offered. That  is existing law  and that  same law will  exist in                                                               
the future.  The fact that  subsection (d) currently calls  out a                                                               
five-year-old specifically  may create ambiguity about  whether a                                                               
four-year-old is  able to attend a  kindergarten program. Perhaps                                                               
Mr. Klein  can answer that question.  The point is that  when all                                                               
of these  subsections take effect,  things go back to  where they                                                               
are  today.  To  the  extent   that  a  four-year-old  can  enter                                                               
kindergarten today, that should return.  If the bill were to pass                                                               
with the  language that  is being  changed, it  specifically does                                                               
say that  four- and  five-year-olds are  able to  kindergarten if                                                               
that is the program the parents are applying for.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOLLAND said  that should the repeals take  effect, the law                                                               
returns to Section 10 without the  parts in bold. That will allow                                                               
a child under school age to  continue to be admitted as they have                                                               
in the past.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BEGICH said  that under  current law,  there is  section                                                               
(d).  This bill  creates a  Section 12,  which recreates  (d) and                                                               
(g), but  it never deleted section  (d) and that is  where it got                                                               
confusing. AS  14.03.080(d) is  the same  language as  in Section                                                               
12, but it is not being repealed.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING said the repeal of that law is in the back of the bill.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOLLAND asked Mr. Klein to weigh in.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH advised that it is page 38, line 12, Section 40.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:19:21 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. KLEIN  said Section 40  repeals AS 14.03.080(d) and  it comes                                                               
back as (g), only because  that conforms to the drafting process.                                                               
When  enacting a  new subsection,  even though  it was  the exact                                                               
same language,  it is just  reenacted as  (g) and the  revisor of                                                               
statute will reorder subsections if  necessary. Section 12 of the                                                               
bill is identical to what is  being repealed in Section 40 of the                                                               
bill.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH said he understood.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES said that last year  her version of the bill had a                                                               
piece where  DEED would have  an assessment that a  younger child                                                               
would have to  pass in order to get in.  Now a superintendent can                                                               
set the  criteria and decide  if child can  get in. She  asked if                                                               
there is a reason not to have  an assessment to make sure a child                                                               
is ready.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KING said  that during  the  discussion of  the drafting  of                                                               
subsection (d) in the previous version  of the bill, it seemed to                                                               
be recreating law that was  already present in subsection (c) and                                                               
rather  than have  two statutes  with similar  but not  identical                                                               
language, he felt that subsection  (c) has that language about an                                                               
assessment of a child. Page 6,  beginning on line 21, talks about                                                               
minimum standards.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOLLAND asked Senator Hughes if that was resolved.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   HUGHES  replied   that  she   sees  minimum   standards                                                               
prescribed by the board on page 6.  She asked if that was a local                                                               
board or the State Board of Education.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING deferred to Mr. Klein.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. KLEIN answered that he will get back with the answer.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BEGICH pointed  out that  both SB  8 and  SB 42  had the                                                               
phrase that  a school district  may waive the requirement  to the                                                               
subsection for a  child who achieves a passing grade  or score on                                                               
an assessment  approved by  the department. He  said Mr.  King is                                                               
suggesting that  this section takes  care of that, but  he agrees                                                               
with  Senator Hughes.  He assumes  that  the board  is the  local                                                               
school district board, not the State  Board of Education. It is a                                                               
relatively minor point that could be discussed offline.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES said that could be  a minor or a major policy call                                                               
because  there  might be  a  lack  of consistency  across  school                                                               
boards  about  readiness.  If legislators  want  children  to  be                                                               
successful in early  literacy K-3, children coming  from the same                                                               
starting   point  would   be  helpful.   This  allows   too  much                                                               
subjectivity. She would rather see it be the state board.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOLLAND said he made a  note of that for possible amendment                                                               
for clarification.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:24:55 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. KING continued with Section 13.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section  13:  Subparagraphs  (E),   (F)  and  (G)  from                                                                    
     version  W  (page  5,  lines  11-17)  were  deleted  to                                                                    
     conform  to  the  broader  local  control  provided  in                                                                    
     section  14 of  version  O.  References to  "retention"                                                                    
     were also  replaced with "progression" (version  O page                                                                    
     8, lines 3-6).                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BEGICH asked  why the  reading portfolio  and the  other                                                               
alternative screening options  identified in SB 8 and  SB 42 were                                                               
eliminated. They were alternative ways of meeting the criteria.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:26:06 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.  KING  referred  to  page  28,  lines  26-27  of  version  O,                                                               
subsection (e).  Version W of  SB 111 specifically said  that the                                                               
standard  for whether  a child  was ready  for promotion  was the                                                               
assessment or  an alternative assessment, including  a portfolio.                                                               
Some  districts said  that a  hard line,  high-stakes test,  even                                                               
with  the  alternatives,  may  not meet  the  district  needs  or                                                               
standards  for  promotion.  Subsection (e)  allows  districts  to                                                               
develop a  policy, which include  a test and alternatives  to the                                                               
test. The  prescriptive language  was removed and  it is  left to                                                               
districts  to  develop their  policies.  Therefore,  there is  no                                                               
reference   to  those   alternative  standards,   which  is   why                                                               
subparagraphs in Section 13 have been removed.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:27:09 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES asked  if that  was a  request from  an education                                                               
group.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING  replied the chair's  office got feedback from  Dr. Lisa                                                               
Parady  [[Executive  Director of  the  Alaska  Council of  School                                                               
Administrators]  that   other  states  with   retention  policies                                                               
usually have policies that are  more expansive to measure whether                                                               
a  child is  ready to  be  promoted. The  chair's office  decided                                                               
districts  could  develop policy  that  could  measure whether  a                                                               
child  does have  the skills  required  to progress  to the  next                                                               
grade. He  said he  would expect  that it  relies heavily  on the                                                               
assessment,  but  this  allows  more  latitude  to  districts  to                                                               
incorporate  other measures  besides just  an assessment,  so the                                                               
assessment is not quite as high stakes.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:28:04 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  HOLLAND added  that the  concern  that a  single test  for                                                               
advancement was high stakes, high pressure.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES said that she  doesn't see that because it allowed                                                               
a portfolio. That could be  multiple things, including a child in                                                               
a reading  group reading  aloud and  answering questions.  It was                                                               
not that  one pressure point. Like  with [kindergarten] entrance,                                                               
this  is leaving  it wide  open.  One district  may be  equipping                                                               
students to  move on to the  next grade and another  district may                                                               
not.  Considering  the  school   funding  and  accountability  to                                                               
legislators, she would rather have a  standard and go back to the                                                               
portfolio,  which  provides plenty  of  leeway  and is  not  high                                                               
stakes  and  not high  pressure.  Now  the policy  could  include                                                               
measures  that are  not related  to learning  objectives. She  is                                                               
concerned that  this has been  left wide open when  the committee                                                               
is  trying to  help students  across the  entire state.  It is  a                                                               
policy  call for  the committee  and an  important discussion  to                                                               
have.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH said he could go  either way if the committee were                                                               
chose to go back to the old  language in version W, page 5, lines                                                               
11-15. He  said he was moved  by the idea of  having a consistent                                                               
standard  across   the  state.  That   has  a  lot  to   do  with                                                               
conversations he had with the  commissioner and governor. He also                                                               
understands  the school  districts'  desire  for flexibility.  He                                                               
would like  to hear  from Dr.  Parady about  why the  changes are                                                               
needed, but  he is leaning  more toward Senator  Hughes' position                                                               
and the  language that was  in version W regarding  the portfolio                                                               
and alternative screenings.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOLLAND said he made a note on that.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING  pointed out that  there is existing law,  AS 14.03.016,                                                               
which  is not  in  the bill.  That law  effectively  says that  a                                                               
parent who  doesn't want a  child to  take an assessment  has the                                                               
right to opt out of the  assessment. Even if an assessment is the                                                               
standard, there is no requirement that a test be taken.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOLLAND clarified that is because of existing law.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES  suggested  the  existing  law  may  need  to  be                                                               
adjusted  and  perhaps  refer  to   a  portfolio  instead  of  an                                                               
assessment. In that regard it is a particular, one-time test.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:31:59 AM                                                                                                                    
At ease                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:34:14 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  HOLLAND reconvened  the meeting  said  the committee  will                                                               
probably revisit Section 13 to look at inserting portfolio.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES said  that her  suggestion would  be to  consider                                                               
focusing   on   portfolio   proficiency  language   rather   than                                                               
assessment language.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING said there were changes throughout Section 14.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 14:  This section correlates  to section  10 of                                                                    
     version  W,  which   establishes  the  early  education                                                                    
     programs. A  few changes were  made to AS  14.03.410 as                                                                    
     follows:                                                                                                                   
   • was collapsed into a single subsection.                                                                                    
   • A $3M annual limit to grant funding was added to (b).                                                                      
   • (c) was changed from specific years of eligibility to                                                                      
     a broader  grant programs subject to  the funding limit                                                                    
     added  under   (b).  There   is  also   added  language                                                                    
     requiring  coordination  with   other  early  education                                                                    
     programs to be eligible.                                                                                                   
   • (d) was streamlined by moving the transition language                                                                      
     on page 6,  lines 19-24 of version W to  page 39, lines                                                                    
     22-25 of version O.                                                                                                        
   • (e)and (f) have conforming reference changes (page 9,                                                                      
     lines 7,8, and 19).                                                                                                        
   • In (h), the definition of "early education program"                                                                        
     has a format change  without changing the meaning (page                                                                    
     9, lines 17-19).                                                                                                           
   • No changes were made to AS 14.03.420 (parents-as-                                                                          
     teachers).                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH  said the Finance  Committees are looking  at what                                                               
amount  of pre-K  grants will  be  available for  this year.  The                                                               
number out of the other body  is the current $3.2 million for the                                                               
ongoing  grants the  state has  been doing  and an  additional $5                                                               
million.  The [Senate]  Finance Education  Subcommittee has  been                                                               
somewhere within that  range. The number could  exceed $3 million                                                               
and will be based on what is appropriated.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:36:35 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  HOLLAND  shared that  his  office  received a  request  to                                                               
consider pushing  the start date for  the bill back one  year and                                                               
so everything  would cascade  back, so  he is  not sure  how that                                                               
would affect the funding levels available this year.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH said it probably would not.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING  said that if  it is  the committee's intent  that these                                                               
grants replace  the existing grants,  then it would  be advisable                                                               
for the  Finance Committee to  advise how to transition  from one                                                               
program to the other.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING  said another change  in subsection (c) is  about trying                                                               
to create efficiencies  with existing Head Starts  to address the                                                               
testimony  about when  a district  already  has a  Head Start  or                                                               
another  program  that  meets  the  local  need.  If  it  is  the                                                               
committee's intent, the language  says that the department should                                                               
not issue  a grant to  a district where  there isn't need  for an                                                               
additional pre-K  program. The intent  is to  create efficiencies                                                               
and not to compete with federal  programs, so that the state does                                                               
not lose federal dollars or any other program.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:38:10 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BEGICH  said  it  creates  the  mistaken  impression  of                                                               
equating universal,  quality pre-K with either  childcare or Head                                                               
Start programs. The  bill notes that the program  must exceed the                                                               
standards adopted  by the board.  He has asked  Legislative Legal                                                               
to make  sure it is  not in any way  weakening the intent  of the                                                               
bill. He will  have that legal opinion to share.  He asked if Mr.                                                               
King,  with the  discussion of  (b), was  implying that  it would                                                               
reduce  the number  of pre-K  grants available  from the  current                                                               
$3.2 million to $3  million under this bill if it  is done a year                                                               
later.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING said he intended to say  that if it is the intent of the                                                               
legislature, this pre-K  program would replace the  other one. He                                                               
acknowledged there  might be a  need for language  that indicates                                                               
that,  along with  how  to  transition from  one  program to  the                                                               
other. The  bill does not  currently address that issue.  If that                                                               
is the  intent of  the legislature, it  is currently  lacking, he                                                               
said.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:39:29 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  BEGICH  pointed  out  that if  the  committee  kept  the                                                               
language  at  $3  million  and  the intent  was  to  replace  the                                                               
existing pre-K grants,  it would be a reduction in  pre-K and not                                                               
any kind of increase, which he would not support.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HOLLAND said  that  he believed  that  Senator Begich  had                                                               
suggested  that the  transition  would be  something the  Finance                                                               
Committee would  cover and that  committee would  probably expand                                                               
it to $3.2 million to cover it with no gap.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES said  she understands that the  committee does not                                                               
want to bump out any federal funds  for Head Start, but as a mom,                                                               
she would want  pre-K to meet these high standards.  She asked if                                                               
a community  does not have enough  need to start a  pre-K program                                                               
in addition  to a Head Start,  could the Head Start  be given the                                                               
first option  to serve the  community if it meets  the standards.                                                               
If the Head Start opted not  to, the districts could have a pre-K                                                               
that meets  the standards, which  could threaten Head  Start. But                                                               
the  point is  to have  programs that  meet these  standards. The                                                               
committee  heard that  the local  boards of  Head Start  have the                                                               
freedom and ability  to set their own  requirements. Those boards                                                               
could step  up and have  programs that  meet the standards  in SB
111. If  they didn't,  then they  could be in  a tough  spot, but                                                               
that would  be their  choice. She  asked if there  is any  way to                                                               
give Head Start first dibs.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:41:47 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  HOLLAND  reminded  the committee  that  Head  Start  works                                                               
beyond the  age group the  committee is talking about  for pre-K.                                                               
The evaluation would  be if four- and  five-year-olds are removed                                                               
from Head Start, would the  remaining population be sufficient to                                                               
sustain a Head Start.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES said  she is  only  talking about  the four-  and                                                               
five-year olds in Head Start, not any three-year-olds.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOLLAND  said that Head Start  does start at six  weeks, so                                                               
serves a much broader population than the pre-K program.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BEGICH  said  he  agrees  with  Senator  Hughes.  He  is                                                               
interested in  high-quality educational experiences for  kids who                                                               
are then going into the K-12  system and so is Senator Hughes. He                                                               
is not  inclined to accommodate  entities that are  not providing                                                               
that  experience, but  he recognizes  the difference  in the  age                                                               
groups. Head Start  could meet the standards for  four- and five-                                                               
year-olds, not the  prior ages. This language was  intended to do                                                               
that  by saying  it won't  be  considered unless  they meet  this                                                               
standard. He thinks it did  accommodate the question that Senator                                                               
Hughes asked of  the Head Start director, which  was whether Head                                                               
Start would  be willing to  apply a  higher standard and  then it                                                               
would become  the pre-K program.  The committee is not  trying to                                                               
support a program, but the standards of quality pre-K.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:44:14 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR HUGHES  said her concern  is that  if a district  wants a                                                               
pre-K program to  meet the standard and if there  is a Head Start                                                               
program in the  community and the Head Start chooses  to meet the                                                               
standard, and that  is great. If they chose not  to, she asked if                                                               
that would  prevent the district  from starting  a high-standard,                                                               
pre-K program.  She asked  if the  bill allows  a district  to do                                                               
that.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING  replied that  was the  intent of  the language.  If the                                                               
standard is being met, then there  is not sufficient need and the                                                               
grant should not be approved.  However, if whatever program being                                                               
offered does not  meet the standard, then there  is indication of                                                               
need,  and the  district  should be  allowed to  get  a grant  to                                                               
develop a high-quality program. That  is his understanding of the                                                               
language that is written and that  was the intent of the language                                                               
as the chair's office requested it.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:45:20 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BEGICH said he asked Legislative Legal that question.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING continued describing the changes.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 15: No changes to previous section 11.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 16:  Has conforming changes to  account for the                                                                    
     new 2032  repeal of AS  14.30.765. This section  is the                                                                    
     combination of  the previous sections  12 and 13  - now                                                                    
     that the repeal dates are aligned.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 17: No changes to the previous section 14.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 18: No changes to the previous section 15.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 19: Expands the reverting language on page 16,                                                                     
        lines 17-20 to account for the new repeal of AS                                                                         
     14.30.765 (reading intervention services).                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Section 20: Changes were made to the board regulation                                                                      
       requirements for quality early education programs                                                                        
     under AS 14.07.165(a), including:                                                                                          
   • (5)(A) was amended to better describe "federal                                                                             
      standards" and delete the reference to AS 14.03.040                                                                       
      (day-in-session requirements) [Page 17, lines 2-5 of                                                                      
     version O, page 17, lines 6-9 in version W].                                                                               
   • (5)(E) was added, which requires the board to develop                                                                      
     day-in-session requirements for early education (page                                                                      
     17, lines 24-25).                                                                                                          
   • (6) is a new paragraph to clarify day-in-session                                                                           
     requirements for kindergarten students (page 17, lines                                                                     
     26-27).                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
9:47:17 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.   KING  said   Section  20   has   two  meaningful   changes.                                                               
Subparagraph  (A) in  version W  required the  standards to  meet                                                               
federal standards  and the  day-in-session requirements.  To make                                                               
it clear that  early education programs are not a  grade and that                                                               
the  board has  discretion  over creating  regulations for  those                                                               
day-in-session  requirements,  that  requirement  is  created  in                                                               
subparagraph  (E)  and  is removed  from  subparagraph  (A).  The                                                               
federal  standards that  were not  defined in  version W  are now                                                               
better defined in  version O to indicate that the  intent is that                                                               
the board  look to the  federal Head Start  performance standards                                                               
and should the federal standards  change with funding attached to                                                               
that, the board should also look to those federal standards.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOLLAND  clarified, and Mr.  King affirmed, that  the board                                                               
here is the State Board of Education.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH  said he was  still unsatisfied as to  the quality                                                               
of the federal  Head Start program guidelines. He  does not think                                                               
they reach  the standard, which  is why he  is so pleased  to see                                                               
(b) and (c)  in here. He recognizes why the  bill had section (a)                                                               
in the  first place,  which was  to protect  Head Start,  to make                                                               
sure that at  the very basic levels it  met federal requirements.                                                               
This clarifies that  and makes it clearer that is  the case. This                                                               
does  not  diminish the  high-quality  level.  It is  actually  a                                                               
challenge to Head Start to meet that level of quality.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING  said the new paragraph  (6) in Section 20  requires the                                                               
board to  develop standards for day-in-session  for kindergarten,                                                               
which is lacking in current law.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING continued with Section 21.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 21: No changes to previous section 18.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 22: A new reverting  section to account for the                                                                    
     2032   repeal  of   AS  14.30.800   (virtual  education                                                                    
     consortium).                                                                                                               
     Section 23:  Version O replaced  the reference  to "the                                                                    
     five components of  evidenced-based reading instruction                                                                    
     identified   by  the   National  Reading   Panel"  with                                                                    
     "phonemic  awareness, phonics,  vocabulary development,                                                                    
     reading  fluency,  oral  language skills,  and  reading                                                                    
     comprehension" (page 19, lines 7-8).                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 24: No changes to previous section 20.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 25: No changes to previous section 21.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 26: No changes to previous section 22.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 27:  The carryforward sections  24 and  25 from                                                                    
     version  W  were collapsed  and  adjusted  so that  the                                                                    
     allowable  balance  immediately  increases to  25%  and                                                                    
     allows additional carryforward  with approval (page 19,                                                                    
     line 30 through page 20, line 2).                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section  28: Replaces  the previous  section 26  with a                                                                    
     cleaner  policy  for  approving  carryforward  balances                                                                    
     greater than 25% (page 20, lines 9-17).                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING said  there was considerable confusion  about Section 27                                                               
in  version  W.  Version  O  tries to  clarify  the  process  for                                                               
carryforward. Section  27 allows for an  immediate effective date                                                               
so that  school districts are able  to carry up to  25 percent of                                                               
their  operating funds  into the  next  fiscal year,  up from  10                                                               
percent now.  It also  provides a  provision for  situations when                                                               
districts have  additional carryover  funds, be it  federal funds                                                               
or savings from operational efficiencies;  there is a process for                                                               
the district  to offer a  plan to use those  funds in a  way that                                                               
DEED  finds  proper. Under  current  law,  if those  carryforward                                                               
funds exist, the  state aid to that district  would be diminished                                                               
by a  like amount.  Allowing a  district to  carryover additional                                                               
funds  does  come  at  an  expense  to  the  state,  so  DEED  is                                                               
responsible for  ensuring that  the public  funds are  well used.                                                               
Section 28 is the explicit  process for the department to approve                                                               
a plan brought to them.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING continued with Section 29.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 29: No changes to previous section 27.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 30: No changes to previous section 28.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section 31: Added the $3M funding increase limit from                                                                      
     section 14 (page 21, lines 27-29).                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING  said the idea  behind the change  in Section 31  was to                                                               
address  the situation  of too  many programs  approved with  not                                                               
enough  funding available.  This  language was  intended to  give                                                               
more  latitude, but  the  chair's office  is  in discussion  with                                                               
Legislative  Legal  about  an  amendment   to  make  the  process                                                               
clearer.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH said he will wait to see that.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section   32:   Changes  the   evidence-based   reading                                                                    
     instruction   requirements  for   preliminary  teaching                                                                    
     certificates  to  match  the requirements  for  regular                                                                    
     teaching certificates (page 22,  lines 2-7 in version O                                                                    
     vs. page 21, lines 22-28 in version W).                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING  said the  change for Section  32 brings  consistency to                                                               
the  language between  regular and  preliminary certificates,  so                                                               
the  language  for regular  certificates  was  inserted into  the                                                               
reference to  preliminary certificates. That way  the language is                                                               
the same.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:53:57 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES said  the committee  had  heard from  Mississippi                                                               
that it requires testing  [for initial certificates]. Legislators                                                               
would get  pushback on this because  it is major policy,  but she                                                               
asked if  changing "or"  to "and"  on page 22,  line 4,  would be                                                               
similar to what Mississippi is doing.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING answered that change  indicates someone needs to conduct                                                               
the  three components  of coursework,  training, and  testing. He                                                               
said it is a policy call.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HOLLAND   said  that  does  not   necessarily  match  what                                                               
Mississippi is doing.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES  said that was  her question,  whether Mississippi                                                               
has  training   and  testing  requirements  or   just  a  testing                                                               
requirement.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING answered that he does not know.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:54:46 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  HUGHES said  she  has mentioned  that  someone can  take                                                               
however many  credits without necessarily mastering  a topic with                                                               
a C- or a  D. Whether the state has a  testing or GPA requirement                                                               
for that  course, she is  concerned about  having a range  of how                                                               
well prepared teachers are. She asked  if the state will wait and                                                               
let the  first group  of students  suffer or  will the  state say                                                               
right out  of the gate teachers  must receive a certain  score in                                                               
the  training. Her  preference  is  to hold  teachers  to a  high                                                               
standard.  The students  will be  held  to a  high standard.  The                                                               
teachers should  be held to  a high standard, and  the university                                                               
programs  for teachers,  public, private,  or from  out of  state                                                               
should  also. Once  Mississippi  had a  testing requirement  [for                                                               
initial  licensure], all  of  a sudden,  the  private and  public                                                               
schools rose  to the  occasion. She would  like the  committee to                                                               
consider that. If the  state has to do that in  a few years, then                                                               
it is  not doing the  best for students  in the beginning  of the                                                               
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:56:35 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR HOLLAND opined that the committee is doing better.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES replied absolutely.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING continued describing the changes.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section   33:   New   reverting   section   to   ensure                                                                    
     consistency in repealing provisions.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
     Section 34: No changes to previous section 31.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
     Section  35: The  reference  to evidence-based  reading                                                                    
     instruction  in section  32 of  version W  was replaced                                                                    
     with   the   words    "phonemic   awareness,   phonics,                                                                    
     vocabulary development, reading  fluency, oral language                                                                    
     skills, and reading comprehension."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section 36:  This section correlates  to section  33 of                                                                    
     version W,  related to reading intervention.  There are                                                                    
     several changes in version O, including:                                                                                   
   • AS 14.30.760(a)(4) of version O is new language, which                                                                     
     requires data  collection based on the  source of early                                                                    
     education participation (page 24,  line 26 through page                                                                    
     25, line 1).                                                                                                               
   • AS 14.30.760(b)(5) is added in version O to assure the                                                                     
     screenings  are culturally  responsive  (page 25,  line                                                                    
     5).                                                                                                                        
   • AS 14.30.765(a)(10)  was  added  to   encourage  more                                                                      
     parental engagement (page 26, lines 22- 24).                                                                               
   • AS 14.30.765(b)(7) was added to ensure the individual                                                                      
     reading plans are culturally  responsive (page 27, line                                                                    
     12).                                                                                                                       
   • AS 14.30.765(b)(8)  was   added  to   encourage  more                                                                      
     parental engagement (page 27, lines 13- 15).                                                                               
   • AS 14.30.765(c)(7) was adjusted for  K-2 students  to                                                                      
     align with the changes in (d) (page 28, lines 3-5).                                                                        
   • AS 14.30.765(c)(10)  was   added  to   make  mid-year                                                                      
     promotion  a  clear  option  if   a  student  does  not                                                                    
     progress (page 28, lines 12-13).                                                                                           
   • AS 14.30.765(d) was  adjusted  to  make  the  process                                                                      
     discussing   delayed  progression   for  K-2   students                                                                    
     clearer (page 28, lines 14-25).                                                                                            
   • AS 14.30.765(e) was  adjusted   to  give  more  local                                                                      
     control to  fourth grade  promotion policies  (page 28,                                                                    
     lines 26-27  in version O  vs. page 27, lines  14-22 in                                                                    
     version W).                                                                                                                
   • AS 14.30.765(f) was adjusted to focus on fourth grade                                                                      
     promotion (page 28, line 28 through page 29, line 12).                                                                     
   • AS 14.30.765(h) and (i) shifted responsibilities from                                                                      
     the school  board to the superintendent  (page 29, line                                                                    
     16 and page 30, lines 4-6).                                                                                                
   • AS 14.30.765(j) was  changed   to  provide  a  remedy                                                                      
     opportunity  if   a  child  is  retained   without  the                                                                    
     parent's involvement (page 30,  lines 9-20 in version O                                                                    
     vs.  page  28, line  28  through  page  29 line  10  in                                                                    
     version W).                                                                                                                
   • AS 14.30.765(l) in  version  O  is  new  language  to                                                                      
     account for  the different  promotion policies  for K-2                                                                    
     students  versus third  grade  and encourages  mid-year                                                                    
     promotion as a plan (page 31, lines 10-13).                                                                                
   • AS 14.30.765(o) limits   district  initiated  delayed                                                                      
     progression to one year (page 31, lines 23- 26).                                                                           
   • AS 14.30.770(a)(10) was  expanded to  require  better                                                                      
     data  tracking  over  time   so  that  a  well-informed                                                                    
     decision regarding  continuing programs after  2032 can                                                                    
     be made (page 33, lines 23- 29).                                                                                           
   • Throughout AS 14.30.765 and 14.30.770,  references to                                                                      
     written  communication were  expanded  to include  oral                                                                    
     notification  and  references   to  the  components  of                                                                    
      evidence-based reading instruction were aligned with                                                                      
     the definition in AS 14.30.775(2).                                                                                         
   • Sections 34 and 35 from version W were deleted.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
9:57:30 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. KING  explained that AS  14.30.760(a)(4) is an attempt  to be                                                               
consistent  with  that  robust  reporting  requirement  that  the                                                               
committee   had  discussed   previously.  This   enters  a   data                                                               
collection  point to  have the  information necessary  to make  a                                                               
good data analysis of the effectiveness of the program.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH  said he was the  one who kept bringing  up robust                                                               
reporting as  opposed to sunsetting  the bill. He  was suggesting                                                               
the department develop the robust  language. He still thinks that                                                               
is a good idea. He asked where the language came from.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING  said this language  came from Legislative Legal  at his                                                               
request on  behalf of the  chair to  ensure that there  is enough                                                               
data  to  make  a  solid  analysis  for  the  final  report  that                                                               
evaluates the program.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
9:58:43 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR BEGICH said he wants  to know the department capacity for                                                               
reporting, which is why he  suggested that the department provide                                                               
an  idea  of  what  the  robust reporting  could  look  like.  He                                                               
requests  that  the  department  look at  this  language.  He  is                                                               
curious to get  the department interpretation of  robust and what                                                               
can be accommodated. The committee  should figure out if they can                                                               
do the thing that the committee is asking them to do.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES said  that  looking  at the  bottom  of page  24,                                                               
legislators would want to know if  the Head Start program a child                                                               
attended  is opting  to follow  the standards.  She heard  from a                                                               
private  preschool  that  is  teaching  phonemics.  It  would  be                                                               
important  to  know  whether  a  non-district  pre-K  program  is                                                               
meeting  the  standards. Otherwise,  it  will  not be  meaningful                                                               
data.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HOLLAND  replied  that  gets  to the  point  of  what  the                                                               
department thinks it can actually  effectively collect because it                                                               
can be  intrusive to  cross examine  parents when  their children                                                               
enter  kindergarten or  first grade  and then  will that  data be                                                               
carried forward. Senator Begich has  a valid point about what can                                                               
be collected and documented.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR HUGHES said parents cannot  be forced and they would just                                                               
mark something  off. That parent  probably will not know  if Head                                                               
Start programs  are following the  high requirements.  That would                                                               
have to be another step that  would have to be researched as part                                                               
of the  data, but it  would be valuable to  know and to  make the                                                               
case for the standards being helpful.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
10:02:09 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  BEGICH said  the  committee is  asking  the question  of                                                               
whether  these things  are working.  Everyone at  this table  has                                                               
said over and over that they want  to be sure what they are doing                                                               
works. He  asked how  the department can  measure what  they have                                                               
done with  the bill and whether  it is effective. That  will lead                                                               
to  a  robust  accounting.  The department  has  to  answer  that                                                               
question  to the  legislators' satisfaction  and to  parents' and                                                               
school  districts' also.  He welcomes  what the  department would                                                               
say. That  is the tool  the legislature  needs. It needs  to know                                                               
the impact of a reform.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES said  her concern  is that  the language  address                                                               
whether  the   programs  meet  the  state   standards  for  early                                                               
literacy, so that is in the data.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:03:35 AM                                                                                                                   
MR.  KING  suggested that  the  committee  may want  to  consider                                                               
language that directs the department  to work with the university                                                               
to adopt  some standards about effective  experimental design and                                                               
collect such  information over time,  so when the report  is due,                                                               
the  department has  the data  to do  the analysis.  The language                                                               
about reporting  could be very  prescriptive and get  exactly the                                                               
wrong information.  It could be good  for whoever is going  to do                                                               
the report to be involved from the beginning.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING  said AS  14.30.765(d) is an  adjustment to  clarify the                                                               
difference in  progression standards for  K-2 vs. a  third grader                                                               
progressing to fourth  grade. If child is identified  as having a                                                               
reading deficiency in  the spring, parents must be  involved in a                                                               
process to  discuss whether the  child should be promoted  to the                                                               
next grade. Ultimately the parent  is the one who decides whether                                                               
the child progresses or not.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BEGICH  observed  that  the  language  "or  whether  the                                                               
student  has previously  not  progressed to  the  next grade"  on                                                               
[page 28,]  line 24 was one  of the exceptions that  is no longer                                                               
there. That  was in  SB 8  and SB  42. He  knows it  is mentioned                                                               
later on,  but he asked  why it is not  here. All of  the experts                                                               
agreed that that  was a consideration, even in  Mississippi it is                                                               
a provision.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING  replied that it is  created in a new  subsection, which                                                               
was  intended  to  address  the  specific  circumstances  when  a                                                               
nonparent  is  making  the decisions  about  progression.  To  be                                                               
consistent, it seemed  it should be parental choice  on whether a                                                               
child is retained  a second time. The new language  says if it is                                                               
the  superintendent  making  the  decision,  a  child  cannot  be                                                               
retained for a second time, but the parent can make that choice.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BEGICH asked  if  Mr. King  if he  would  be opposed  to                                                               
having that  language here,  just to  make it  clear to  a parent                                                               
that this provision  is available. These bills  are difficult for                                                               
the average  person to read. That  exception is not in  (h). That                                                               
consistent standard around  in country is not  in subsection (h).                                                               
He wants to make sure parents know that is still an exception.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KING said  the language  appears in  subsection (o),  but it                                                               
could be in subsection (h) to make it clearer.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH  said another option  could be to  say "exceptions                                                               
under (h)  or (o) of this  section." That is an  easy solution to                                                               
the problem. To him it is just about clarity for the parent.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING  said that  subsection (f) is  specific to  promotion to                                                               
third grade and is a slightly higher bar.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:11:27 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR  HUGHES said  the committee  received some  feedback last                                                               
year from the Anchorage School  District that mentioned that if a                                                               
child is struggling,  it is better for the child  not to progress                                                               
from kindergarten to first grade  rather than waiting until third                                                               
grade. The committee may want to  consider that. It is easier for                                                               
the child if it is done earlier.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH suggested that the testifier was Mark Johnson.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.KING  said  that  subsections  (h )and  (i),  in  response  to                                                               
recommendation from  a testifier, shift the  responsibility for a                                                               
progression decision  to the superintendent rather  than a school                                                               
board in the case of a  good cause waiver request. Subsection (j)                                                               
is the remedy  for when a parent does not  attend a meeting about                                                               
delayed progression.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BEGICH asked  why the  decisions moved  from the  school                                                               
boards to the superintendents.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING said  testimony suggested that the school  board was not                                                               
the  best entity  to  make  a decision.  It  would  be better  to                                                               
designate someone who knows the  child and will make the decision                                                               
based on the specific circumstances  of the child rather than the                                                               
board.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  HUGHES  concurred.  She   said  local  boards  in  small                                                               
community have  said it is tough  when they all know  each other.                                                               
On page 30,  line 9, no guardian attends a  meeting, she asked if                                                               
anything requires the  district to make more than  one attempt to                                                               
have a meeting.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING answered that is the intent of subsection (j).                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BEGICH described  the phrase  "for  and intervention  in                                                               
intensive  reading intervention  services" on  lines 4  and 5  of                                                               
page  32 as  awkward. He  questioned what  "and intervention  in"                                                               
meant.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING deferred to Mr. Klein.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
10:16:58 AM                                                                                                                   
MR.  KLEIN said  that  the  language can  be  removed if  someone                                                               
submits  an  amendment  request.   In  reference  to  an  earlier                                                               
question from  Senator Hughes about  14.03.080(c), it  does refer                                                               
to the State Board.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BEGICH said  that he  will approach  the chair's  office                                                               
about some language around the  five participating schools. He is                                                               
not sure  about how to construct  that and may need  to hear from                                                               
the commissioner on that.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING continued describing the changes.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 37: No changes from the previous section 36.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
          Section 38: Adds a definition of "culturally                                                                          
     responsive" (page 38, lines 2-5).                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
     Section 39: No changes from the previous section 38.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:18:47 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR BEGICH  said he had a  question about why lines  26-29 on                                                               
page 33 were added.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KING  replied that  is  related  to  the robustness  of  the                                                               
reporting   requirement,  to   make  sure   the  department   had                                                               
sufficient data  and that it  was using  that data to  inform the                                                               
legislature on the progress of the programs.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:19:10 AM                                                                                                                   
SENATOR BEGICH said he would like the department to consider                                                                    
that in determining its report.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. KING continued describing the changes with Section 40.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
     Section 40:  New repeal of AS  14.03.080(d), related to                                                                    
     under school age students, to  conform to changes in AS                                                                    
     14.03.080(c) made in section 11 (page 38, line 12).                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
     Section  41:  The  following were  added  to  the  2032                                                                    
     sunset provision (page 38, lines 13-14):                                                                                   
   • AS 14.03.120(h) (K-3 reading report)                                                                                       
   • AS 14.20.020(l) (evidence-based reading instruction                                                                        
     training for regular teacher certificates)                                                                                 
   • AS 14.30.760 (reading assessments)                                                                                         
   • AS 14.30.765 (reading intervention services)                                                                               
   • AS 14.30.775 (reading intervention definitions)                                                                            
   • AS 14.30.800 (virtual education consortium)                                                                                
     The sunset  on AS  14.30.770 (reading  specialists) was                                                                    
     moved to 2032.                                                                                                             
     The sunset on AS 14.07.165(a)(5) was removed.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Section 42: No changes to the previous section 40.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 43: No changes to the previous section 41.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 44: No changes to the previous section 42.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
     Section 45:  A new  reporting requirement due  the year                                                                    
     before   the  programs   sunset   so   that  a   future                                                                    
     legislature  can  determine  if the  sunset  provisions                                                                    
     should be allowed to take effect (page 39, lines3-19).                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section  46: A  new  subsection (b)  was  added to  the                                                                    
     transition section,  which moves the language  from the                                                                    
     previous section 10 (page 6, lines 19-24 of version W.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
     Section 47:  Aligns the sunset provisions  to all occur                                                                    
     on June 30, 2032 (page 39, lines 26-31).                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     Section  48:  Conforming   changes  from  the  previous                                                                    
     section 47.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR BEGICH said that if the start  date of bill is moved by a                                                               
year, he would suggest that the sunset dates be moved a year.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  HOLLAND responded  that  everything  cascades forward  one                                                               
year. That is the plan. He  removed his objection. There being no                                                               
further objection, version O was before the committee.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOLLAND called on invited testimony                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
10:21:33 AM                                                                                                                   
TOM KLAAMEYER, President, NEA-Alaska,  Anchorage, Alaska, said he                                                               
was testifying on behalf of  NEA-Alaska's almost 12,000 educators                                                               
across  the  state.  All  in   the  state  want  children  to  be                                                               
successful in  school and in  life. Alaska's students are  a one-                                                               
of-a-kind   tapestry   of   indigenous   cultures,   norms,   and                                                               
traditions. In  Anchorage, where  he teaches, students  come from                                                               
homes  that speak  over 100  languages. An  All Alaska  Pediatric                                                               
Partnership 2020  report states that  36 percent of  young people                                                               
ages zero through  eight live in poverty. Alaska  has the highest                                                               
rates of child maltreatment in  the nation. The state's ALCANLink                                                               
project shows  that one-third of  Alaskan children have  a report                                                               
of  maltreatment with  the Office  of Children's  Services before                                                               
the  age  of eight.  Only  one-third  of Alaskan  children  start                                                               
kindergarten ready.  Low-income children are even  less likely to                                                               
be well  equipped to start  their education. The  state currently                                                               
invests  only  1 percent  of  general  funds in  early  childhood                                                               
education. Many Alaskan children arrive at school unprepared.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR.  KLAAMEYER said  that  legislators as  policy  makers have  a                                                               
great challenge  and he appreciates  the urgency with  which this                                                               
legislation is  being brought  forward in  order to  help Alaskan                                                               
children. His biggest  concern with the legislation  is about the                                                               
sunset  provisions  for  early education  funding  and  programs.                                                               
There have been massive responses  to proposed cuts to education.                                                               
It is easy to say Alaska  spends more per capita per student, but                                                               
the  state does  not  compare  to any  other  when talking  about                                                               
making  sure kids  all  over the  state have  what  they need  to                                                               
succeed. The  distances, the  climate, the  high cost  of energy,                                                               
transportation, and  even food in  many communities  makes Alaska                                                               
truly  unique.  There  are   1,000  fewer  certificated  teachers                                                               
working  in Alaska  than a  decade  ago. Years  of flat  funding,                                                               
further eroded by inflation have  strained the system. There have                                                               
been multiple  years of layoffs at  the end of the  year and then                                                               
districts had  to scramble to rehire  in fall. He has  heard from                                                               
young  teachers who  are dismayed  that their  chosen career  has                                                               
such volatility.  This is important ultimately  because increased                                                               
educator turnover have a deleterious  effect on student learning.                                                               
This connects to the sunsets in the legislation.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
10:27:44 AM                                                                                                                   
MR. KLAAMEYER said the committee  has been responsive to educator                                                               
concerns and  have worked to  deal with the pink  slip challenge,                                                               
but  uncertainty remains.  SB 111  as currently  drafted sets  up                                                               
another  cyclical   complication  for  educators   and  students,                                                               
exaggerating  the   uncertainty  and  instability   that  already                                                               
exists.  Instead   of  long-term  investments  in   proven  early                                                               
childhood  education, SB  111  ensures  that education  advocates                                                               
will have to  be back in Juneau fighting the  fight once again to                                                               
prove  the  programs'  worth.  The  chair  wants  sideboards  and                                                               
accountability. Educators  appreciate that. Educators would  be a                                                               
great  source of  feedback. Educators  are grateful  and want  to                                                               
acknowledge subsection 10 of AS  14.30.77(o), which would provide                                                               
for an  annual convening of  educators, parents, and  students to                                                               
review  and provide  commentary  about the  effectiveness of  the                                                               
reading intervention.  That would be more  successful than sunset                                                               
clauses.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. KLAAMEYER said  educators have a good sense  of what students                                                               
need to succeed. What is true  for Alaskan students today will be                                                               
true when  the provisions  are set  to expire.  Educators respect                                                               
the  desire  for  accountability   and  feedback  about  how  the                                                               
investments are  performing, but children  are not as easy  as to                                                               
analyze. The  ability to measure  success is complex  and varied.                                                               
Students are  more than  a test  score. Standardized  tests alone                                                               
cannot accurately  capture the comprehension of  students who are                                                               
learning  English and  preserving an  indigenous language.  Tests                                                               
cannot tell about the spark when  students learn to love to read.                                                               
Tests  are  important,  but  Alaska  kids  should  not  lose  the                                                               
opportunity   for  early   childhood  learning   based  on   that                                                               
performance.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
10:31:27 AM                                                                                                                   
MR. KLAAMEYER  said that educators believe  that rigorous review,                                                               
reporting  and  engagement  with educators,  school  boards,  and                                                               
local  communities  is  the  key   to  improving  outcomes.  This                                                               
legislation  will  make a  difference.  Students  deserve a  full                                                               
commitment from the adults in  the room. Allowing this commitment                                                               
to  expire  save for  the  hope  of  intervention from  a  future                                                               
legislature does  not reflect the  seriousness of this  issue and                                                               
seems like a  hedge against its success. Instead,  leave a legacy                                                               
in  believing in  young  people by  investing  in their  futures,                                                               
making  sure that  high-quality, prekindergarten  education is  a                                                               
permanent part  of the  school system.  He thanked  the committee                                                               
for  their  work on  this  legislation  and their  commitment  to                                                               
students and engaging stakeholders in the process.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR HOLLAND said  that he would prefer to look  at the 10 years                                                               
of proposed  increases in  spending as  opposed to  the suggested                                                               
cut that  sunset will  create 10 years  from now.  He anticipates                                                               
that if he is fortunate enough  to be in the legislature 10 years                                                               
from now, he  will be pursuing the repeal of  the sunset dates to                                                               
continue  a  successful  program.  Mr. Klaameyer  spoke  of  flat                                                               
funding yet  also noted that  the state  is among the  highest in                                                               
spending per  capita. It  is hard to  look at  increasing funding                                                               
with  the current  budgetary restraints,  but he  appreciates Mr.                                                               
Klaameyer's words.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
10:33:43 AM                                                                                                                   
NORM WOOTEN,  Director of Advocacy, Association  of Alaska School                                                               
Boards,  Juneau, Alaska,  said that  he  had been  asked to  also                                                               
speak on  behalf Lisa  Parady. He thanked  the committee  for its                                                               
willingness to  listen to their  concerns and to include  so many                                                               
of  them in  the committee  substitute.  They have  had a  shared                                                               
goal, to  create a bill  that will benefit students  and increase                                                               
student achievement. Many components  in the committee substitute                                                               
are   especially   appreciated.   They    are   not   afraid   of                                                               
accountability and  the accountability  provisions in SB  111 are                                                               
reasonable.  The  strong  elements for  professional  development                                                               
will  assist educators  in meeting  the needs  of their  students                                                               
across this  great state.  High, rigorous  professional standards                                                               
that  will prepare  teachers for  reading  instruction and  early                                                               
education  will serve  students  well. The  assurance that  early                                                               
education  programs are  appropriate  and utilize  research-based                                                               
strategies  will  prepare  those  students  well  for  successful                                                               
educational experience.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WOOTEN said  that they  especially  appreciate defining  the                                                               
elements of evidence-based  reading. The ability to  read well is                                                               
the fundamental basis for a  good education and SB 111 emphasizes                                                               
this. Provisions for timely, rapid  interventions for students in                                                               
need of additional  help are critical and addressed  in the bill.                                                               
The emphasis  on increasing parental engagement  in the education                                                               
of  their  children, particularly  in  reading,  is welcome.  The                                                               
assistance  of  the department  in  those  interventions will  be                                                               
particularly helpful in smaller school districts.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  WOOTEN said  teachers  made a  herculean  effort during  the                                                               
pandemic  to deliver  virtual instruction.  Some  form of  hybrid                                                               
instruction,  which   includes  virtual  delivery,   will  likely                                                               
outlive  the pandemic.  Professional  development  for those  who                                                               
deliver virtual instruction will  only improve that instructional                                                               
model  going forward.  The influx  of pandemic  aid flowing  into                                                               
school districts makes the increase  in undesignated fund balance                                                               
carryover a  necessary and  welcome change.  This will  avoid the                                                               
use-it-or-lose-it  mentality  and  allow districts  to  best  use                                                               
those  funds  to   serve  the  students.  The   addition  of  the                                                               
culturally responsive phrase in  multiple locations retains local                                                               
control and  ensures districts can  serve their students  in ways                                                               
acceptable to the communities in which they reside.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
10:37:27 AM                                                                                                                   
MR.  WOOTEN  said  that  some things  are  concerning.  They  are                                                               
disappointed that funding for universal  pre-K is not possible at                                                               
this time  due to the fiscal  cliff facing the state.  Their hope                                                               
is that when the time for repeal  arrives, the state will be in a                                                               
better fiscal situation and the  results will show the success of                                                               
early education  as has  already been  proven in  several Alaskan                                                               
school  districts.  They would  have  liked  to have  seen  pre-K                                                               
counts in  the ADM not capped  by an appropriation, but  they are                                                               
grateful for  what is  in the  bill. Section  7 of  the reporting                                                               
requirement   has  a   requirement  to   report  the   number  of                                                               
administrators  compared to  the total  number of  students. They                                                               
are not  opposed to this,  but it is  sometimes too easy  to find                                                               
educational  funding by  reducing the  number of  administrators.                                                               
They provide  the leadership  necessary for  student achievement.                                                               
His only  request is not  to think of  them as expendable  but as                                                               
part  of a  team working  in concert  with classroom  teachers to                                                               
increase student  achievement. While he is  still concerned about                                                               
the repeals  for so many  of the programs  in SB 111,  making the                                                               
repeals  consistent  with  one  date  has  removed  much  of  the                                                               
confusion  from the  original version.  The committee  substitute                                                               
has made  SB 111 a much  better bill. He appreciates  the efforts                                                               
of  all  the  committee  members  and  Mr.  King  has  been  very                                                               
responsive.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  BEGICH thanked  both testifiers  and the  chair and  Mr.                                                               
King for  working so diligently  on the suggested changes.  It is                                                               
much appreciated. It has made a much better bill.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
10:40:03 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR HOLLAND held SB 111 in committee.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
10:40:19 AM                                                                                                                   
CHAIR HOLLAND There being no  further business to come before the                                                               
committee, Chair Holland adjourned  the Senate Education Standing                                                               
Committee at 10:40 a.m.                                                                                                         

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
CS for SB 111 version O.pdf SEDC 4/14/2021 9:00:00 AM
SB 111
SB 111 Explanation of Changes from version W to O.pdf SEDC 4/14/2021 9:00:00 AM
SB 111
SB 111 version O effective date matrix.pdf SEDC 4/14/2021 9:00:00 AM
SB 111